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Recommendation of an excellent video in which Ivo Simon talks about his family and the disappearance of his son Marco Aurélio.
Video length: 39 minutes and 47 seconds.
Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMoIDYo8XXk
Channel Link: https://www.youtube.com/@curadorferido
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Audio Transcription:
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and I was born in a difficult time in the world
beginning of World War II in 1939
except my father was an alcoholic and
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Hi and that was
a great tragedy in our family
but my father, to see this so
wonderful, he gave us so many books, so much culture that we adored
him
I was still a child when I was four
years old, three or four years old, actually, I saw my father and mother in law, my mother's family is Italian and one of
the discreet thickness I think not only mine, but of all of us, is to have a family and
I was doing a course
the Young Men's Christian Association
there on Rangel Pestana in downtown São Paulo when I saw a girl
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and she was very beautiful, Tereza Nelma was her name, you know
and I'm inviting you for a snack with me
one of these days she said, okay
our first snack was on Avenida Paulista
but it was called Aladdin, next to Praça Oswaldo Cruz
and as we liked each other a lot, we decided to date
and then I said, I have to marry her
Nelma, I want you to marry me
today I want to talk to your father
and he thought, no, no
I can't marry you, but why, what's the problem? We're dating, we're getting along so well
the result was that I have some health problems
probably we can't have children
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And if we can't have children, we'll adopt. There are many children out there who
need us, and she gave me a hug I'll never forget in my life
and we cried together
let's go
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a week before she arrives, she says, I'm going to see you, a dream institution
and it will be
the girl and I left in despair those days, bought everything pink, a daughter was born
Adriana, eight months old, a little cyanotic
but no problem. After two years, a boy named Fábio was born, blond, beautiful, who looked like
a Johnson baby, very blond, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. And
the problems, right? Cristina
the doctor even said
we have to operate
Fábio, we have to operate
the intestine, an 80 cm, 10 cm intestine surgery
and it remained open for one thing, almost two years later the doctor said
let's do the lifting of the count
Fábio's too, it's time
we scheduled it
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the doctor performs the surgery
what do I learn from here to here, then I go to the room, here, no more sutures
the doctor put staples that the body no longer accepted sutures, and Neuma did the dressings on him, she wanted to do it, she didn't even want anyone else to help, but
the same one who put the bandages, you looked when she did the
dressings and asked me to see if the organs were working, because when it stays open like this for
39 days
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the hospital, we didn't know if he would survive. The doctor said, he lives
and it will be two
it's five, six, seven years, we don't know what will happen
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we tried, even twins were born
six months apart, one weighing 980 grams and the other, no
she wanted to try, she was in an incubator for three months, the first bottle was a drop of milk with a dropper in her mouth, after three months they went home
she had a lot of difficulty walking, she had some issues, Marco Aurélio
got a little restless, he didn't look different, he looked older because the eyes are formed in the last months of
pregnancy
and we stayed with the girl and three children between life and death
getting up to go for a walk without knowing if tomorrow they'd be with us
it's interesting that we have
and the Christmas presents we received, various presents
I had a small box with those little presents you get on your birthday, I went to see what we'd do with these presents, and I saw a little heart this big
it's pyrography on wood, a heart
with a message
Everything passes
the same outfit as the one on the corridor of our house
and when she was already 16 years old, Nelma was already
I dreamed of your mother
in which country a blonde was born, doing Dilma
and now that the children are
and I'm going
and you're going to invent today, Ivo will be born, and Patricia was born
everything was going very well in our lives, they were happy, the twins played football, they were always the last, but they were never segregated at school, Fábio also played football wonderfully
and when she reached around 13 years old, my wife's doctor's son was a scout and had to go camping, and she called my wife, a doctor, and said, look, there was a little problem in my son's group and they won't be able to camp where they were supposed to go, would you let them use our farm near Atibaia, could you lend the farm for them to camp, so she called me to look, doctor girl is asking for the farm, scout guards, my God, don't destroy our farm, how many are there, 40, 50, my God, but tell her
what we had already agreed, go there, but you're authorized, I won't say no
we went there
and all the daughters went together
and when we saw the organization of the girl scouts, building huts, pioneer work, raising the flag, singing the national anthem, making a table, praying as if it were a mass, so my children saw here on the channel, Dad, we want to be, we want to sleep in tents
I spoke to the leader, no, okay, then each one, the boys, the three of them can sleep in tents
the result, when we returned to São Paulo, the first thing Fábio said was, Dad, I want to be a scout
and
and I always supported everything he did. So I went to the scout group and said, I, Fábio, am a scout, authorization needed. So the twins Marco Antônio, Marco Aurélio, me too, we want to be scouts too. So it's for the three of us, girls, the scouting, so Adriana, the parents are volunteers, they're there, I and Nelma carrying scout things, tents, rice, beans, and everything needed to help with
camps, and the girls will come from us, we did it, I talked to Vida, and what did we do? We founded the Bandeirantes of the Olivetano Scout Group, it was our group, Olivetano Scout Group, number 240
And we founded it, but there was no one to lead it, so who is it? Dona Neuma, my wife will be the leader of the scout group, and the girls also joined. So I was the driver, go here, go there, Ivo, take a course, you're good with your head to help the older ones, we don't have anyone. When he turned 18, we didn't know what to do with them. So I took a course and became a scout leader for the Pioneers, which was more about chatting and guiding and things like that. That's how we went, nothing related to scouting, and that's how it went. We stayed for 11
45 years, very good, many
camps, many trips, many interesting things, learned a lot in scouting, and
a month before, we had arranged to do a trek to Pico dos Marins, at the time it was the highest peak in the state of São Paulo, near the city of Piquete, shortly after Lorena, Aparecida do Norte, the highest peak in the state of São Paulo.
How will this climb be? I was always very careful, very afraid of bad things happening in my life, especially to my family, so we had meetings at the scout group. So we're going to climb Pico dos Marins.
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Hermes, 17, but for one reason or another, the group started to shrink. So there was one leader
I called Juan Bernabéu Céspedes
and four 15-year-old boys, who were taking a test. They were going to climb Pico dos Marins, including Marco Aurélio, and I, a few days later, due to work, couldn't see the group off. The group traveled
and even stayed
At Piquete, a car took them all. From the four boys to São, 28 km away, to the base of Pico dos Marins, where there was a guide named Afonso Xavier, over 50 years old, he is a guide on Pico dos Marins. I know Pico das Maravilhas, I've climbed it three or four times a day. Pico dos Marins is in the Serra da Mantiqueira, 2420 meters high, and children aged 10, 12 years old, with families, but always with a guide. The path is this way, and they would return, some people even slept there to see the stars, to see the Paraíba Valley. And for reasons that are still unknown today
hello colleague, who says he's been there for ten years, or not? I think I'm very busy. We're going alone.
and another scout group passed by. Let's go together. No, no, no, we're going alone.
and when we were about 1600 meters, one of the boys sprained his ankle, which was very painful, and he couldn't walk anymore.
And the group then, well, we're not going to know, we're going back, there's a companion injured, we're going back, but
and a brilliant idea arose, they say it was Marco Aurélio's, I can't say yes or no. Someone, can we stay, help?
Money, can it, legal, right? So you go, Marco Aurélio, I don't
Aurélio was the monitor of the group, saying that he was the one who knew the most.
some of us don't understand until today why to seek help on a rock mountain, to ask a rock, rock, come help me here, rescue our group, a place he didn't know, you look, rock, rock, rock, it won't go this way, you really, if you have knowledge of the region, down there, the road passes, you'll get there.
it's a preposterous decision, because you can't separate one person from a group in an unknown place. If you call the fire department, they always go together. Policemen always go together. Never separate a person in an unknown place. Then the newspaper said, Marco Aurélio put it under his scout uniform to protect himself from the cold. It's a very cold region.
Marco Aurélio had respiratory problems and
at that time I was
on the farm with a couple of friends, at exactly that time we were going to
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I'll send you Marco Aurélio, just videos, go get help.
Ah, and find a way for him. So you go, he'll go, he'll go get help somewhere, and he'll mark on the stone, 240.
Hi, and walking
the mask 240
it's true, they were trying to transport the boy, trying to make a mark, but it wasn't possible because of the vegetation and all the rocks, but there are no trees, but they couldn't make a mark to carry the injured boy named Osvaldo.
I'll carry him on my shoulder. Gently, Marco Aurélio helped in front. There are about 200, 300 meters. Suddenly he passed between two rocks and was no longer seen.
and the group continued to wait. 2:30 PM, and the three boys who came from him
and instead of video, here, when they reached the place where Marco Aurélio passed between two rocks
and they couldn't pass because they were carrying the injured boy on their shoulders and decided to go around, when they went around, instead of continuing
Hi, what time did Marco Aurélio's path go down to the right? If someone knows, send it, but it went to the left. I used it, it didn't go to the right, we went and went down to the right. So look, the camp was here, they came to the right and got lost.
They spent the night.
Dense fog, a lot of fog.
It's a fair, it's a place with brush, there's already higher vegetation, the region is created by a fence that was on the side of the road.
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and he said, shirt
I heard the sound of a river below, so I walked and found a bigger house, which was Seu Filhinho's house
and where they were later
and we lost, asking, listening, we're going to Pico dos Marins, but you're completely wrong.
and get out of here, from my farm, go back, it's 6 km away from the base.
they took the path, arrived at the camp around 6 AM, 5:30, 6 AM, arrived to rest, without Marco Aurélio's scratches.
So the lives said, always rest, I'll go back to try to call college.
identification, I'm alone in the mountains.
What do you think, Marco Aurélio, all
six until ten in the morning, nobody knows what happened.
then he returned alone
tax Marco Aurélio didn't find him, returned to the camp. In the meantime, the van that had gone to pick up the scouts to bring them to the bus station to take their return to São Paulo was already there. Only instead of the leader saying, go get help in Piquete, so they ran to Piquete, the highway police were informed, and the scout leaders stayed Dias were there, went to help search for Marco Aurélio. It started to rain heavily, fog, when it was around 6 PM, seven PM, they returned, there's nothing more to do, talk to the family.
Mr. Afonso welcomed the boys to the house, Rafa was all wet to welcome the boys to his house.
and
the leader of Lorena called me, Ivo, Marco Aurélio disappeared, disappeared yesterday
and after lunch
and we, Osvaldo got hurt, we decided to go back, and
Marco Aurélio went to get help
disappeared. Today, we think we found him, I can't. My shirt 1
okay, where are you? We're in Piquete.
and you saw Lorena, the leader
Toninho will wait for you at the beach at your address. I called my brother, so Ivo, if you go, come here to drive the car for me to Piquete to confirm the [ ] disappeared, I called leader Reinaldo, the one who had been with us on the farm, to go with me to Piquete. We arrived at
around 5 AM, leader Toninho took us to Piquete
and we informed the police yesterday, at the end of the day. The police will pass by here soon. From the moment we arrived in Piquete,
you are facing something that has never happened. What happens to families? Someone disappears, your son disappears, your wife disappears, you don't know what to do.
we managed to get two helicopters to search. In the meantime, the police moved a lot. We already have civil police, military, mountaineers, dangerous ones, and
especially ranchers from the region, farmers, truck drivers, who know Pico dos Marins like the back of their hand, in the search. So for 28 days, intense, intense search, and not a single hair of Marco Aurélio was found.
a family from São Paulo has been searching for three years for an answer that becomes more difficult each day. What happened to their son Marco Aurélio Simon, who disappeared in the Serra da Mantiqueira, on the border between São Paulo and Minas
and
who vanished, disappeared without a trace.
an adult in the family believes that the boy who became a man will return. The scouts' problems began when they were almost at the top of Pico dos Marins, very close to the clouds. Marco Aurélio offered to go ahead to look for help and to find the best way down. As an indication, he made marks with chalk on the rocks. The last time he was seen was on that rock, making the marking. Attention Brazil, the mystery of the boy who disappeared 20 years ago. This house used to belong to Seu Afonso, who lived there with his family. Food arrived here, Geraldo, because the Brazilian people were also very supportive at the time and sent food to feed these approximately 300 men who stayed here for 30 days searching, more than 30 days, actually, 32 years ago, on June 8, 1985, a case involving a young disappeared person would touch all of Brazil.
His son Marco Aurélio disappeared when he was only 15 years old. Now, the emotional saga of a family in search of the son who disappeared almost 30 years ago. A 15-year-old boy disappeared during a hike in the mountains. A story that moved Brazilians and, so much time later, is still a complete mystery. A complete mystery, 35 years, and a father in search of an answer. What happened to the scout Marco Aurélio? He was 15 years old when he disappeared during a scout excursion. The place was like this, Pico dos Marins, inland São Paulo.
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and information came from all over Brazil
and he was seen here, he was seen there. And people appeared who wanted to help us
and from the region, psychics, religions, all of whom were with us, giving their support.
and that's what marked us the most.
and those swindlers
and people who play with others' misfortune.
who tried to appear. One of them was a professor who worked with pyramids.
who expressed his desire to locate old Marco.
but I had already done an interview with a journalist, who did an interview for a magazine that was published by the client, and he had a pyramid on his bed. He used to say that water, he used to make guarana, guarana turn into water, and I did the article with him, I thought it was a sham. Exactly this professor appears to me years later,
expressing interest in finding Marco Aurélio. He wanted it, and we managed to get him a tent, helpers, provisions, a flashlight, a rabbit's paw,
and he went searching. At the end of the day, he returned. I couldn't find anything, because the professor, no, because many people were involved, I couldn't capture Marco Aurélio's energies, so it wasn't possible to get anything positive. I'm going back to São Paulo. Another one was Thomas Green Morton. We even went to his house,
and offered to help us.
He said, I've never dealt with missing persons, but I can try. And he brought a piece of iron and metal.
belonging to Marco Aurélio. I called the São Paulo police. He took the scout knife, Marco Aurélio arrived at night. I scheduled it with him for the next day.
but nothing positive happened either.
Of course, we also had to face some adversities in the meantime, opportunistic people. Even in Piquete, we had a blackmail attempt. I was supposed to go to a veterinary clinic at midnight, alone, not to inform the police, and bring so much money. The first thing I did was call the police, explain, and at night, a police officer went to pick up the rest, which was always in Piquete.
and in the city of Ouro Fino, a boy appeared claiming to be Marco Aurélio. TV Globo went with me there.
and now here he was hugging me, calling me Dad, and calling Nelma as if he knew her, calling her Nelma, my mother. And he had a scar on his belly, like Marco Aurélio's. Only Marco Aurélio's scar was vertical, this guy had a horizontal scar. Do you want me to talk to the delegate? Only if we wait for the doctor. I asked for a forensic doctor, but the forensic doctor wasn't there, he was at a distant occurrence. We had to wait. And the delegate called me and said, sensitive, let me talk to you, girl, call the girl in a moment. He said, unfortunately, it's not a boy who lives here on a farm. Someone arrived and said he knew him. I adore what
you did to us. You know what it is? I wanted to move to São Paulo, and I had to go to your family and see that you are from São Paulo, and I wanted to live with you.
Well, we had some cases, threats of extortion. In a city in the interior, we resorted to the anti-kidnapping group from São Paulo. We went with Algés, we delivered money, and after delivering the money, half an hour later, I'll say, look, the boy is at risk.
and he'll pass by a car, he'll make two turns, slowly, he'll pass by the payphone and leave. According to the delegate, it wasn't actually a kidnapping. It was just a situation where they wanted to
and carry me. The most dramatic thing that happened was on our first Christmas in 1985. The first Christmas.
it was about 10 minutes to midnight, 5 minutes to midnight, I received a phone call.
Yes, hello? Look, this is a friend from
Mato Grosso, you're talking about. I wanted to tell you, stop worrying about looking for Marco Aurélio, because you won't find him. Because I was on the mountain, I heard everything that happened. My friend, but if you were there, why didn't you report it to the police? It's very sad, very sad what happened, but what happened? Tell me, the leader killed your son, chopped him up in pieces all over the mountain, that's why they never found him, they never found him, and destroyed your son.
And that's all you have to tell me. Good night. Thank you for calling. Nelma asked
what is rage?
and always very calm
and internally exploding
it wasn't a friend, he just wanted to wish us a Merry Christmas. So let's celebrate Christmas and
and we went to Chico Xavier's house. The most emotional experience I had in my life during the search, in Uberaba, we went to his house, a very simple house.
earthen floors
a small kitchen where he received us, which was the kitchen, the bedroom
and it could be made of onion crates, made of wood. We sat down.
and Chico already had a poster of Marco Aurélio
and had already distributed over 30,000 across Brazil. And I asked Chico, we passed Marco Aurélio,
and we want you to tell us something.
and he said, look, I haven't been able to contact him to this day.
it's a [ ] you listen, so he's alive, right? He said, I didn't bother, I met disembodied spirits, and this gives us great strength to continue this search for Marco Aurélio, because if Chico Xavier said he's alive, and I don't have a single hair to this day, concrete proof of what happened, why should I believe in death? I prefer to believe he's alive.
and the Serra da Mantiqueira and Pico dos Marins have many interesting stories about people who claim to have seen flying saucers
and sightings and strange things. I'm saying this because on Sunday, when the boys got lost and returned to the camp at the base of Marins, when night fell, they heard a shout, and they thought it was Marco Aurélio shouting that he had reached the camp. So they went to Seu Afonso's house, and they saw strange lights turning on and off, their account.
Hi, and a whistle, a whistle, two whistles, I think it's Marco Aurélio's whistle.
and suddenly Juan went out to follow the lights, in the direction of the lights, the lights went out, and
he didn't see anything else. There was a small house where a lady lived. He asked her, didn't you see the noises, the whistles here? No, I didn't see anything. So it remained a strange thing, but for ufologists, this could be an indication that Marco Aurélio was abducted
by a flying saucer, a series of strange events, and taken to the world, to another dimension.
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and this coat of arms is the symbol of the union of my family.
The Simons with my wife's Bezerra family. The colors here are the colors of England. There are two lions, me, my wife, and the five children, the five little lions. And the motto of our family is this: Pass on and honor. We have to pass through this life and leave an example of integrity, respect, dignity. That's what I preach to my children. Leave a beautiful story here in life. That's how you'll be remembered.
The search for Marco Aurélio has been going on for 32 years. On June 8, 1985, a case involving a young disappeared person would move all of Brazil. His son, Marco Aurélio, disappeared when he was only 15 years old. Now, the emotional saga of a family in search of the son who disappeared almost 30 years ago. A 15-year-old boy disappeared during a scout excursion. The place was Pico dos Marins in the interior of São Paulo.
Information came from all over Brazil, and he was seen here, he was seen there. And people appeared who wanted to help us from the region, psychics, religious people, all of whom were with us, giving their support. And that's what marked us the most.
And those swindlers and people who play with others' misfortune. Who tried to appear. One of them was a professor who worked with pyramids and expressed his desire to locate old Marco. But I had already done an interview with a journalist for a magazine, and he had a pyramid on his bed. He claimed that water, guarana, would turn into water, and I did the article with him, thinking it was a sham. This professor appeared years later, expressing interest in finding Marco Aurélio. We managed to get him a tent, helpers, provisions, a flashlight, and a rabbit's foot, and he went searching. At the end of the day, he returned. He couldn't find anything. He said he couldn't capture Marco Aurélio's energies. I'm going back to São Paulo. Another one was Thomas Green Morton. We went to his house and he offered to help. He said he had never dealt with missing persons but could try and brought a piece of metal belonging to Marco Aurélio. I called the São Paulo police. He took the scout knife. Marco Aurélio arrived at night. I scheduled it with him for the next day, but nothing positive happened either.
Of course, we also had to face some adversities. Opportunistic people, even in Piquete, tried to blackmail me. I was supposed to go to a veterinary clinic at midnight, alone, not to inform the police, and bring so much money. The first thing I did was call the police, explain, and at night, a police officer went to pick up the rest, which was always in Piquete.
In the city of Ouro Fino, a boy appeared claiming to be Marco Aurélio. TV Globo went with me there. He was hugging me, calling me Dad, and calling Nelma as if he knew her. He had a scar on his belly, like Marco Aurélio's, but Marco Aurélio's scar was vertical, and this guy's was horizontal. The delegate asked me to talk to the forensic doctor, but he wasn't there. The delegate called me and said, "Let me talk to you privately." The boy said, "Unfortunately, I'm not from here. I'm from a farm. Someone told me they knew you. I love what you've done for us. I wanted to move to São Paulo and see your family. I want to live with you."
We also had some extortion attempts. In a city in the interior, we resorted to the anti-kidnapping group from São Paulo. We went with Algés, delivered money, and half an hour later, the boy was safe. The delegate said it wasn't a kidnapping, just a situation where they wanted to exploit us.
The most dramatic event happened on our first Christmas in 1985. It was about 10 minutes to midnight when I received a phone call. A friend from Mato Grosso said, "Stop worrying about looking for Marco Aurélio because you won't find him." He claimed to have been on the mountain and heard everything. When asked why he didn't report it to the police, he said it was too sad. He claimed the leader killed Marco Aurélio and chopped him into pieces, which is why he was never found. This is what you have to tell me? Good night. Nelma asked, "What is rage?" I was always calm on the outside, but boiling inside.
It wasn't a friend, he just wanted to wish us a Merry Christmas. We went to Chico Xavier's house, the most emotional experience of my life during the search. In Uberaba, we went to his house, a very simple house with earthen floors. Chico already had a poster of Marco Aurélio, which he had distributed over 30,000 times across Brazil. I asked Chico if he had any news of Marco Aurélio. He said, "Look, I haven't been able to contact him to this day." I interpret this as meaning he's alive. I prefer to believe he's alive because I haven't found any concrete proof of his death.
The Serra da Mantiqueira and Pico dos Marins have many interesting stories about people who claim to have seen flying saucers and other strange phenomena. On the Sunday the boys got lost, they heard a shout, thinking it was Marco Aurélio. They went to Seu Afonso's house and saw strange lights turning on and off. They heard whistles, which they thought were Marco Aurélio's. Juan went towards the lights, which then disappeared. They asked a lady living nearby if she had seen anything, but she said no. Ufologists believe this could indicate Marco Aurélio was abducted by a flying saucer and taken to another dimension.
This coat of arms symbolizes the union of my family, the Simons, with my wife's Bezerra family. The colors are the colors of England. There are two lions, me, my wife, and our five children, the five little lions. Our family motto is: "Pass on and honor." We must pass through this life and leave an example of integrity, respect, and dignity. That's what I preach to my children: leave a beautiful story here in life. That's how you'll be remembered.
